request for transcript: Bruce Schneier and Eben Moglen discuss a post-Snowden Internet

[jamesd@echeque.com (James A. Donald)]

stef wrote:
> > > I think that making working for NSA "srsly uncool, dude" is a very effective
> > > tactic, for example. Especially in the light of the "thanksgiving talking
> > > points".

James A. Donald wrote:
> > Will never work.  You overrate social pressure.

rysiek wrote:
> despite german government seemingly having serious problems recruiting
> competent devs for producing their own malware

Governments have serious problems recruiting competent developers even 
for stuff that many people approve of, for example the obamacare web site.