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- <li><em>date</em>: Thu Nov 4 10:09:24 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: esoteric at 3times25.net (Geoffrey)</li>
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It would be a group of people, and it would not be difficult to
assemble. I would start with Aaron and Jonathan. :)
> Further more, the technically capable part may be in conflict with
> point 1. It could be very difficult to find a group of people that
> are capable of knowing every in and out of a dozen proprietary
> systems.
It could/should be done. You could require the developers to spend time
with the group.
>> Third, voting devices such as these should be randomly seized and a
>> complete verification of the system be completed, again by a
>> non-partisan group. That's to say, they could walk into a polling
>> place, anywhere in this country, select a machine and after
>> protecting the existing votes on that device, proceed to validate
>> and verify that it is functioning correctly.
>
>
> I have visions of men in black suits busting into a crowded polling
> place, knocking over grannies and grandpa's to get to a machine, like
> EMT's on TV. It would be too easy to go to a crowded polling placed
> filled with people of a demographic you don't like, in the hopes
> that the longer lines that will result from having some machines
> off-line causes people to get impatient and go home.
Regardless, the randomness is necessary.
>
> As far as I can tell, from reading this thread, any level of the
> system is open for abuse. I guess at some point, you have to trust
> somebody.
Sure, but you put in place as many checks and balances as is possible.
I could drive a car down the road without a seatbelt, no brakes, no
headlights at 2am, but that doesn't mean I have to.
--
Until later, Geoffrey
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