[af-ix-discuss] Renseignements, Interconnexion de deux POP

[Benny.MBOKO at arpce.cg (Benny.MBOKO at arpce.cg)]

Hi Arnold,
Thank you!

Best regards
Benny

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De?: af-ix-discuss [mailto:af-ix-discuss-bounces at af-ix.net] De la part de Arnold Nipper
Envoy??: jeudi 11 janvier 2018 09:18
??: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>; af-ix-discuss at af-ix.net
Objet?: Re: [af-ix-discuss] Renseignements, Interconnexion de deux POP

[ Trying to cut the thread a bit ]

Good morning

On 10.01.2018 20:15, Frank Habicht wrote:

> What the difference between "interconnection of two different IXPs" 
> and "interconnection of two POPs of the same IXP" depends very much on 
> the definitions, so we probably have to clarify these first.
> 

....

> Definitions:
> First not that some things that call themselves "Internet Exchange" 
> are not really what we here mean by "IXP".
>

A definition what an IXP is, accepted by all IX-F members may be found here [0]

....

> If the same IXP would start a new POP in another city, and connect it 
> to the same switch fabric, and transport packets between the cities 
> for the peers, that would make it more like a network operator, they 
> would have to have more support staff, and would be offering services 
> more similar to normal ISPs.
> 
> This is a dangerous thing. IXPs depend on the network operators (ISPs, 
> present and prospective peers at the IXP) to view the IXP as neutral 
> and beneficial for the general internet development, and connectivity 
> -- but NOT to compete in the same business and possibly take customers 
> away from the ISPs!
> 
> So the distance between those POPs matters.
> 

you may find my presentations on "diameter of an IXP" and "interconnecting IXPs" useful [1] as well.

> b) connecting 2 IXPs of different organisations:
> same problems, plus: the intentions and incentives of the 2 
> organisations might not always stay aligned as much as they are (or
> seem) right now.
> 

You may have read that BCIX [2] and DE-CIX just announced a partnership [3] where both IXP are interconnected physically but still are separate on an IXP level. Imho this makes perfectly sense.

The interconnection industry is changing rapidly. Customer demand - both from a technical pov as well from a commercial - is driving this changes. We have to be aware of it and find solutions.


Cheers and see you soon
Arnold

[0] http://www.ix-f.net/ixp-definition.html
[1] https://www.slideserve.com/shina/interconnecting-ixps-pros-and-cons
[2] https://www.bcix.de
[3]
https://www.de-cix.net/en/news-events/news/de-cix-berlin-powered-by-bcix-de-cix-offers-interconnection-services-in-berlin
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