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[af-ix-discuss] Renseignements, Interconnexion de deux POP



[ Trying to cut the thread a bit ]

Good morning

On 10.01.2018 20:15, Frank Habicht wrote:

> What the difference between "interconnection of two different IXPs" and
> "interconnection of two POPs of the same IXP" depends very much on the
> definitions, so we probably have to clarify these first.
> 

....

> Definitions:
> First not that some things that call themselves "Internet Exchange" are
> not really what we here mean by "IXP".
>

A definition what an IXP is, accepted by all IX-F members may be found
here [0]

....

> If the same IXP would start a new POP in another city, and connect it to
> the same switch fabric, and transport packets between the cities for the
> peers, that would make it more like a network operator, they would have
> to have more support staff, and would be offering services more similar
> to normal ISPs.
> 
> This is a dangerous thing. IXPs depend on the network operators (ISPs,
> present and prospective peers at the IXP) to view the IXP as neutral and
> beneficial for the general internet development, and connectivity -- but
> NOT to compete in the same business and possibly take customers away
> from the ISPs!
> 
> So the distance between those POPs matters.
> 

you may find my presentations on "diameter of an IXP" and
"interconnecting IXPs" useful [1] as well.

> b) connecting 2 IXPs of different organisations:
> same problems, plus: the intentions and incentives of the 2
> organisations might not always stay aligned as much as they are (or
> seem) right now.
> 

You may have read that BCIX [2] and DE-CIX just announced a partnership
[3] where both IXP are interconnected physically but still are separate
on an IXP level. Imho this makes perfectly sense.

The interconnection industry is changing rapidly. Customer demand - both
from a technical pov as well from a commercial - is driving this
changes. We have to be aware of it and find solutions.


Cheers and see you soon
Arnold

[0] http://www.ix-f.net/ixp-definition.html
[1] https://www.slideserve.com/shina/interconnecting-ixps-pros-and-cons
[2] https://www.bcix.de
[3]
https://www.de-cix.net/en/news-events/news/de-cix-berlin-powered-by-bcix-de-cix-offers-interconnection-services-in-berlin
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