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Ownership of Routers on Both Ends of Transnational Links
- Subject: Ownership of Routers on Both Ends of Transnational Links
- From: morrowc.lists at gmail.com (Christopher Morrow)
- Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:40:11 -0400
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On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:31 PM Pengxiong Zhu <pzhu011 at ucr.edu> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the confusion. I mean the IPs belong to non-Chinese ISPs but are actually controlled/managed by Chinese ISPs.
>
this is, as I think was said earlier, normal practice.
Sometimes you accept a /31 from your "provider" or "peer", sometimes
they accept yours...
sometimes this is because of seasons/reasons/etc, sometimes because
it's how folk denote who's paying for the link in between.
Those ips are not useful as a signal, which I think was also said
previously in this thread.
> Best,
> Pengxiong Zhu
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> University of California, Riverside
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:52 AM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:38 AM Pengxiong Zhu <pzhu011 at ucr.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks again for your insightful responses!
>> >
>> > The case we discuss above is Chinese ISPs renting routers located outside China and the IPs belong to other ISPs.
>> >
>>
>> I think you are using all of the wrong verbs here... 'renting' does
>> not make sense here, I'm unclear on what you actually mean, please try
>> again with a different verb OR more clarifying text.
>> \