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Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)
- Subject: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)
- From: ben at 6by7.net (Ben Cannon)
- Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 23:36:19 -0700
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]>
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Then Africa in particular is specifically disadvantaged - I spent a good deal of time in Haiti and 4G connectivity was abundant at good speeds, as were terrestrial fiber connections.
Mirrors my experience in half a dozen other 3rd world countries. Unless thereâ??s something particularly oppressive about Africa?
> On May 28, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com> wrote:
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> --- mpetach at netflight.com wrote:
> From: Matthew Petach <mpetach at netflight.com>
> On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Ben Cannon <ben at 6by7.net> wrote:
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>> Iâ??m sorry I simply believe that in 2018 with the advanced and cheap ptp
>> radio (ubiquiti anyone? $300 and I have a 200mbit/sec link over 10miles!
>> Spend a bit more and go 100km) plus the advancements in cubesats about to
>> be launched, even the 3rd world can simply get with the times.
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> I do not think you adequately understand the economics of the
> situation.
>
> https://www.slideshare.net/InternetSociety/international-bandwidth-and-pricing-trends-in-subsahara-africa-79147043
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> slide 22, IP transit cost.
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> Your 200mbit/sec link that costs you $300 in hardware
> is going to cost you $4960/month to actually get IP traffic
> across, in Nairobi. Yes, that's about $60,000/year.
>
> Could *you* afford to "get with the times" if that's what
> your bandwidth was going to cost you?
>
> Please, do a little research on what the real
> costs are before telling others they need to
> "simply get with the times."
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> Also, please don't just look at continental countries
> when researching. Look at the small PICs (Pacific
> Island Countries). For example, search the posts from
> Christian on Kiribati on the PICISOC list. The cost is
> extraordinary and all the ego-flattering bloat rsk
> speaks (relevant part of the post id below) of in very
> expensive to download and is nearly impossible to stop.
>
> scott
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>> The problem (part of the problem) is that the people doing these foolish
>> things are new, ignorant, and privileged: they don't realize that bandwidth
>> is still an expensive and scarce resource for most of the planet. I've
>> said for years that every web designer should be forced to work in an
>> environment bandlimited to 56K in order to instll in them the virtue
>> of frugality and strongly discourage them from flattering their egos
>> by creating all-singing all-dancing web sites...that look great in the
>> portfolios they'll show to their peers but are horribly bloated, slow,
>> unrenderable in a lot of browsers, and fraught with security and privacy
>> problems. (Try pointing a text-only browser at your favorite website.
>> Can you even read the home page?)
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