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NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

Subject: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:56:01 +0900
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> This thread is full of people who have never run large L2 networks
> stating their opinions on running large L2 networks, and they
> invariably underestimate their complexity and the logistics required.

maybe the complexity and the logistics required are WHY they don't build
large L2 networks.  SMITH: Doctor, it hurts when I do this. DALE: Don't
do that.

> sFlow statistics isn't a luxury function.  Neither is remote peering.

by 'remote peering' do you mean an exchange essentially selling transit?

randy

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