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Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed



Fine, tell the lawyers and MBA types that if their reliable methods become unreliable they are not the ISPs problem and that their ?risk profile? is the number of customer they lose.

I would like to see some sort of statistic that says AGPS is more reliable than IP location.  I really doubt it for the following reasons.


1.        Device needs to have GPS, WiFi, or both.  A lot don?t.

2.       SSID needs to be in a database.  What is the ratio of SSIDs in the databases vs total SSIDs worldwide.  Bet a large percentage are not there.

3.       People can change an SSID or WiFi AP at any time.  How long exactly until I get my database entry updated.

4.       Any indoor area that does not have WiFi coverage cannot be located, period, end of story.

I guarantee you that Apple does not know where my Apple TV units or any of my Sony TVs are because they are on hard Ethernet cables with WiFi disabled so if they told the lawyers that, they lied.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL



From: Cryptographrix [mailto:cryptographrix at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Naslund, Steve; nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed

"there is no reliable geo-location method for Netflix to use"

Any microprocessor that is connected to the Internet is subject to being hacked - let's just turn off all of our computers, since we're talking in absolutes.