How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

[owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong)]

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:06 , Curtis Maurand <cmaurand at xyonet.com> wrote:
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> 
> 
> On 10/1/2015 2:29 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 00:39 , Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 1 October 2015 at 03:26, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Windows XP does IPv6 fine so long as there is a IPv4 recursive
>>>> server available.  It's just a simple command to install IPv6.
>>>> 
>>>>        netsh interface ipv6 install
>>>> 
>>> If the customer knew how to do that he wouldn't still be using Windows XP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Actually I don't expect Gmail and Facebook to be IPv4 only forever.
>>>> 
>>> Gmail and Facebook are already dual stack enabled. But I do not see
>>> Facebook turning off IPv4 for a very long time. Therefore a customer that
>>> only uses the Internet for a few basic things will be able to get along
>>> with being IPv4-only for a very long time.
>>> 
>> Yes and no?
>> 
>> I think you are right about facebook.
>> 
>> However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to start charging extra
>> for IPv4 service. Some residences may pay for it initially, but if they think there?s a
>> way to move away from it and the ISPs start fingerpointing to the specific laggards,
>> you?ll see a groundswell of consumers pushing to find alternatives.
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
> ipv6 is going to force a lot of consumers to replace hardware. Worse, it's not easy to set up and get right as ipv4 is.
> 
> --Curtis

You?re going to have to elaborate on that one?. I think IPv6 is actually quite a bit easier than IPv4, so please explicate
in what ways it is harder to set up and get right?

For the average household, it?s plug the IPv6-capable router in and let it go.

For more advanced environments, it might take nearly as much effort as IPv4 and the unfamiliarity might add a couple
of additional challenges the first time, but once you get past that, IPv6 has a lot of features that actually make it
easier than IPv4.

Not having to deal with NAT being just one of the big ones.

Owen