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Daniel,
The sold speeds are all actually less than the actual speeds. The PON
customers are slightly over provisioned and the DOCSIS customers are over
provisioned a bit more.
On Mar 2, 2015 10:01 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com> wrote:
> What do those 25 and 50Mb/s download rates amount to in practice?
>
> Statistically speaking, those might *be* symmetric.
>
> On 03/02/2015 08:41 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>
>>
>> Daniel,
>> For the third or fourth time in this discussion we are tracking and
>> customer satisfaction for users who do have symmetrical bandwidth >24 mbps
>> and have for a number of years.
>>
>> We see customer usage patterns and satisfaction being statically the same
>> on 25/25 and 25/8 accounts. The same is true when we look at 50/50 versus
>> 50/12 accounts.
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2015 9:22 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:
>> dtaylor at vocalabs.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm clearly not a normal user, or I wouldn't be here.
>> Normal users have never experienced high-speed symmetrical service.
>>
>> People don't miss what they have never had.
>>
>> On 03/02/2015 08:09 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's not the norm for consumers, but the important thing to
>> understand is that for most of the technologies we use for
>> broadband there simply is less upstream capacity than
>> downstream. That upstream scarcity means that for DSL,
>> DOCSIS, PON, WiFi, and LTE delivering symmetrical upstream
>> bandwidth will cost the service provider more which means at
>> some point it will cost consumers more.
>>
>> WiFi is a special case, while there is no theoretical reason
>> it must be asymmetrical but it works that way in practice
>> because dedicated APs invariably have both higher transmit
>> power and much better antenna gain. The average AP in the US
>> will put out a watt or more while clients are putting out ~250
>> milliwatts and with 0 antenna gain.
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2015 8:58 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtaylor at vocalabs.com
>> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com
>> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Personally?
>> If the price were the same, I'd go with 50/50.
>>
>> That way my uploads would take even less time.
>>
>> It isn't about the averaged total, it's about how long
>> each event
>> takes, and backing up 4GB of files off-site shouldn't have
>> to take
>> an hour.
>>
>> On 02/27/2015 03:11 PM, Scott Helms wrote:
>>
>> Daniel,
>>
>>
>> "50MB/s might be tough to fill, but even at home I can get
>> good use out of the odd 25MB/s upstream burst for a
>> few minutes."
>>
>> Which would you choose, 50/50 or 75/25? My point is
>> not that
>> upstream speed isn't valuable, but merely that demand
>> for it
>> isn't symmetrical and unless the market changes won't
>> be in
>> the near term. Downstream demand is growing, in most
>> markets
>> I can see, much faster than upstream demand.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Helms
>> Vice President of Technology
>> ZCorum
>> (678) 507-5000 <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000>
>> <tel:%28678%29%20507-5000>
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>>
>>
>> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal
>> Laboratories, Inc.
>> dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>
>> <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>>
>> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 <tel:%28612%29235-5711>
>> <tel:%28612%29235-5711>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal
>> Laboratories, Inc.
>> dtaylor at vocalabs.com <mailto:dtaylor at vocalabs.com>
>> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 <tel:%28612%29235-5711>
>>
>>
>
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> Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal Laboratories, Inc.
> dtaylor at vocalabs.com http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
>
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