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Big Temporary Networks
- Subject: Big Temporary Networks
- From: jra at baylink.com (Jay Ashworth)
- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:45:55 -0400 (EDT)
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "M?ns Nilsson" <mansaxel at besserwisser.org>
> 04:05:41PM +0000 Quoting Dylan Bouterse (dylan at corp.power1.com):
> > I'm not sure if this is obvious for this list or not, but with your
> > WiFi nodes, a good practice for that kind of density is more nodes,
> > lower power. Keep the client connection load per AP as low as
> > possible to improve overall performance. Jacking up the power in a
> > small area like that will just step on the adjacent APs and cause
> > issues.
It was. :-) Of course, the propery may (read: probably does) have its
own conference areas and residential floors wifi, and those may or may
not be V-WLAN capable.
> An enterprisey AP flock that perhaps even can talk to eachother about
> power levels is a must.
>
> At all possible cost, avoid login or encryption for the wireless.
Yes, and no.
> Captive portals suck, especially if they try to be clever and keep an eye on
> the link-state to each client. Tablets and smartphones turn their radios
> off to conserve battery, and that means having to login all the time.
My plan is to have 3 VWLANs:
worldcon-guests, which will have one-time captive portal; I want the
controller to remember the MAC address everywhere, all week
worldcon-dealers, no captive portal (for credit card and other embedded
machines), and
worldcon-staff, which may have some relaxed outbound security compared to
the other networks.
(For example, I have no problems blocking outbound port 25 and redirecting
recursive DNS -- though I do want a system that permits me to whitelist
MACs on request. But I would do those on the guest and dealer nets, and
not on the staff one.)
> While things have become much better, doing 802.1x on conference
> wireless probably is a bit daring. OTOH eduroam does it all over Europe.
If I did try to do that, it would probably only be on the staff network;
it's a much more contrained environment.
> Get lots of IP addresses. A /16 probably still can be borrowed for
> this kind of event. I know RIPE had rules and addresses for this kind of
> use a couple years ago, at least.
Indeed? I did not see that coming. Hell, perhaps Interop could be talked
into loaning me a /16. :-)
> And get v6.
Yeah, I assumed that, though it will be interesting to see how much play
it actually gets; these are SF geeks, not networking geeks.
> Do not NAT. When all those people want to do social networking to the
> same
> furry BBS while also frequenting three social app sites simultaneously
> you are going to get Issues if you NAT. So don't. (Keep in mind that
> the
> 5-tuple for each TCP connection more often will become a 3-tuple if
> the
> demographic of the user base is skewed towards a focus group and NAT
> is
> in use. )
This, right here, is the kind of gritty advice that brought me to ask
this question in the first place. You're right; NAT is Right Out;
forget what I said earlier. :-)
> Lots of IP adresses will also enable you to set sensible DHCP lease
> times on the failover-connected (because they are, right?) DHCP
> servers. Nothing is so detrimental to connectivity experience as lost
> leases from either crashed DHCP servers or short lease times.
> Be very thorough and careful in setting DHCP up. It'll pay off.
Oh yeah. I'm fond of leases as short as 30 minutes, though if I have
a /16, I won't care as much.
> Have DNS resolvers locally. Unbound is good. As is BIND.
Yep, with lots of RAM on the boxes.
> It might be a good idea to have reverse DNS delegation set up,
> perhaps via the BIND $GENERATE directive; just something like
> wireless-node-47-11.world.con will do.
Hmmm.
> Make sure that the whois contacts for the address block are proper.
Well, I do have 3 years to plan. :-)
> Try setting some monitoring up; it is good to be able to keep an eye
> on client count per AP etc. This is also much easier if the wireless
> solution is enterprisey.
I was planning on having a NOC, yes, albeit small.
Very nice, M?ns; thanks.
Cheers,
-- jra
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