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Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)
- Subject: Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)
- From: jnn at synfin.org (John Newman)
- Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 20:53:13 -0500
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On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <su at seds.nl> wrote:
>I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually
>specify
>it precisely).
>
>I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn
>pathetic
>too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong
James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum.
Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT
stain... wtf is wrong with me !?
>about
>personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a
>public
>email list on hacker culture.
>Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You
>should
>take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you
>should
>not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before
>replying.
>
>Do whatever is healthier for you.
>
>
>On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn at rushpost.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
>> > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list?
>and
>> > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
>>
>> Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and
>outright
>> pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist
>> (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and
>dishonest
>> spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and
>#$%&#$
>> %&#$%&#$.
>>
>>
>> Shawn,
>>
>> I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben
>did
>> probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or
>> purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his
>> aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
>>
>> **I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign
>runaway
>> hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely
>> offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
>>
>> He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my
>messages,
>> honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks
>ago,
>> contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy
>for
>> knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing
>> good... I was very stupid.
>>
>> Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate
>false
>> and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry
>for
>> wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages
>asking
>> for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and
>lost.
>>
>> I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I
>used
>> to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently
>**not** a
>> problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message
>and
>> giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a
>> supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages
>filters.
>>
>> Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will
>> certainly be much healthier for me.
>>
>> ** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who
>think
>> it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really
>> shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because
>James'
>> messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted,
>but
>> if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and
>destroying
>> it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
>>
>> D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P
>>
>> Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only.
>>
>> c.
>>
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