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software - multiple version installs (any distro developers here?)
- To: CypherPunks <[email protected]>
- Subject: software - multiple version installs (any distro developers here?)
- From: [email protected] (Zenaan Harkness)
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:20:39 +1000
Any distro developers here? I just want to float an idea with a couple
folks before throwing it out publicly - I'm sure this has been thunked
before, but I'd like to see the libre unix software ecosystem move
forward on this.
Firstly, witness the glory of /opt :
$ tree /opt -L 3
/opt
â??â??â?? bin
â??  â??â??â?? eclipse -> ../e/eclipse/eclipse
â??  â??â??â?? libreoffice -> ../l/libreoffice/program/soffice
â??  â??â??â?? lo -> libreoffice
â??  â??â??â?? pg -> ../p/pg/pg # hypothetical
â??  â??â??â?? soffice -> libreoffice
â??  â??â??â?? vuze -> ../v/vuze/latest/vuze/vuze
â??â??â?? e
â??  â??â??â?? eclipse -> eclipse-4.6
â??  â??â??â?? eclipse-4.6
â??  â??  â??â??â?? artifacts.xml
â??  â??  â??â??â?? configuration
â??  â??  â??â??â?? eclipse
â??  â??  â??â??â?? icon.xpm
â??  â??  â??â??â?? plugins
â??  â??  â??â??â?? readme
â??  â??â??â?? eclipse-themes
â??â??â?? l
â??  â??â??â?? libreoffice -> libreoffice5.2
â??  â??â??â?? libreoffice4.8
â??  â?? â??â??â?? CREDITS.fodt
â??  â?? â??â??â?? help
â??  â?? â??â??â?? program
â??  â??â??â?? libreoffice5.2
â??  â??â??â?? CREDITS.fodt
â??  â??â??â?? help
â??  â??â??â?? LICENSE
â??  â??â??â?? LICENSE.html
â??  â??â??â?? presets
â??  â??â??â?? program
â??  â??â??â?? share
â??â??â?? p
â??  â??â??â?? pg -> postgresql
â??â??â?? v
â??â??â?? vuze
â??â??â?? 5600
â??â??â?? latest -> 5600
So we see this particular /opt/bin is a (admittedly small in my personal
example) symlink farm, pointing out to various versions of various
installed software.
Also, it is structured like a Debian style package pool, with
directories {a..z} to contain the various (manually in this case)
installed software.
With just a smattering of /etc/.. based meta files, .deb meta files and
tool awareness, a distro could install all software in this form - say
into /usr/a/.. /usr/b/.. etc., and /usr/lib, /usr/bin and /usr/share
become symlink farms.
The primary benefits I see are:
- simple multiple versions install of same software/ library/ etc
- different software can easily depend on different versions of
other software/ library/ etc, since everything can easily be parallel
installed
- existing Unixy standards can be more easily maintained (/bin /usr
/lib) with symlink farms
- end user can much more easily maintain their own custom /opt/bin to
override version preferences rather than learning arcane per distro
package incantations
Main problems:
- it's a partially new install/ FHS system (though a multi-year
transition shouldn't be particularly painful afaict)
- really needs to become part of FHS, and therefore cross-distro
- therefore needs buy-in from >1 distro, or at least a non-intrusive
transition plan/ capability
Does anyone foresee any other particular problems with this concept?