Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)

[Rayzer@riseup.net (Razer)]

On 10/30/2015 09:54 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:34 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net
> <mailto:zen@freedbms.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 10/29/15, Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org
>     <mailto:shelley@misanthropia.org>> wrote:
>     > On October 29, 2015 11:17:05 AM Lodewijk andré de la porte
>     <l@odewijk.nl <mailto:l@odewijk.nl>>
>     > wrote:
>     >> I'm sorry, but there's only so much one will do with disregard
>     of self.
>     >
>     > That speaks volumes of your character.
>
>     I read Lodewijk's comment as a generalised statement on the current
>     predominant nature of 'Western' (perhaps all) people. As in "how
>     things are" not "how I am and how I want the world to be".
>
>     Character attack is sometimes not be in the interests of
>     constructive dialogue.
>
>     Inspiration for a 'better' world is a good thing. Resignation over the
>     current world is a common thing. Finding a point of compassion in our
>     conversations with each other is something I have failed at too many
>     times.
>
>
> David C. Rose's "Moral Foundation of Economic Behavior" cites some
> pretty convincing evidence that individualist moralities (perhaps what
> people here are callign "Western") are inherently superior to
> collectivist. Of course, I was already biased in that direction when I
> picked up the book, so I'd be interested to hear what someone who is
> already fairly sympathetic to collectivism thinks.

I think there's a place for individualism within collectivism but the
collective comes first.

RR

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