Re: Harvard and MIT Students Launch ‘NSA-Proof’ Email Service | Betabeat

[loki@obscura.com (Lance Cottrell)]

Not buying it. Elaborate. 

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Lance Cottrell
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> On May 20, 2014, at 8:05 AM, "Kelly J. Rose" <iam@kjro.se> wrote:
> 
> Which is totally subverted if you are American citizens or located in the us. Simply by the national security letters. 
> 
> You could have the sexiest cryptosystem ever and the NSL attack will still beat you if you put it on American soil. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, Lance Cottrell <loki@obscura.com> wrote:
>> Just read the â??Threat Modelâ?? section of the website. They are working to prevent mass surveillance, not to stop targeted nation state level attacks against individual users.
>> 
>> 	-Lance
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>> Lance Cottrell
>> loki@obscura.com
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>> 
>>> On May 19, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Ð?лекÑ?андÑ? <afalex169@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://betabeat.com/2014/05/harvard-and-mit-students-launch-nsa-proof-email-service/
>>> 
>>> well, it
>>> seems too good to be truth.
>>> Recently we"ve got a lot of projects like that.
>>> 
>>> Yes, there are enthusiasts.
>>> A real good ones.
>>> But we should also ask ourselves,
>>> (except what tpb-crypto mentiond), who these guys are? Could they be a project of... the NSA itself?
>>> Yes.
>>> 
>>> I read their security section. The first thing in my mind (i am not tooooo paranoid:)) is that it is too good. It is absolutely free WITHOUT any mention of donations.
>>> Not even a mention.
>>> Who supports them? Can we trust him/it?
>>> Are they millionaires:)?
>>> We see not even one word about the money.
>>> Second of all, when you read their
>>> security section, its like a honey for bees - it invites you. Its ideal. Too much ideal.
>>> So yes, i rely on my feelings too, and there is something wrong with that.
>>> 
>>> These guys are from Germany:
>>> https://lavaboom.com/en/beta.html
>>> It seems to me a better choice (except the problem of the fact that Germany has got its nsa=bnd and that they give everything to nsa)
>>> 
>>> In the end, we need to trust someone. But we dont read their minds:). And it could be, after all, a big fall.
>>> 
>>> We"ve got pgp. Thanks God.
>>> But a 100% reliable and bulletproof email provider?
>>> No.
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