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[edhelas@movim.eu (edhelas)]

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the Movim project since 2008, our aim is to create a 
full social network on top of the XMPP protocol. As I see again, the 
guys of the Tox project are trying to reinvent the wheelâ?¦ again. Now, 
to do IM, we have Skype, BBM, Line, WhatsApp, MSN, QQ, AIM, ICQ, IRC, 
XMPP, Facebook Messengerâ?¦

Same for the social networks as Davis said (PumpIO, TentIOâ?¦)

I really think that we need to focus on an existent standard and 
improve it, and for me XMPP seem to be the perfect protocol for all 
theses things :
- Standard IM + chatroom
- Video/Audio conferencing (with Jingle, we are using it with WebRTC on 
Movim)
- Pubsub (for newsfeeds, blogging)
- Geolocation
- Vcard4 support
- SASL2 authentication
- OTR support
- Full encryption between the servers (https://xmpp.net/list.php)
- and so onâ?¦

XMPP can do a lot more than just IM, it's a full social-communication 
protocol it just need to be implemented, tested and debugged :)

Tim

On lun., juil. 7, 2014 at 6:00 , DÄ?vis MosÄ?ns <davispuh@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> 2014-07-06 23:28 GMT+03:00 rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl>:
>> Dnia niedziela, 6 lipca 2014 22:25:59 piszesz:
>> > hmm, I wonder are there any such open protocol specification 
>> created? I
>> > know about XMPP, but nothing more...
>> 
>> Well, there's the Diaspora protocol:
>> https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/Federation_protocol_overview
>> 
>> And... StatusNet/OStatus, PumpIO, TentIO, ActivityStreams, 
>> BuddyCloud (XMPP-
>> based, I guess), and quite a few others I don't really remember. 
>> Some of them
>> are related, all are incompatible. And all the devs are showing 
>> strong
>> symptoms of the NIH syndrome.
>> 
>> Which is absurd.
>> 
>> --
>> Pozdr
>> rysiek
> 
> that indeed is stupid and so no one have solved it yet... for social 
> network or basically any IM/chat/etc to be usable it must have 
> majority of people (eg. your friends) users there, otherwise without 
> people they are totally useless so currently we're stuck with 
> no-so-great applications/protocols only because everyone already are 
> on them like Facebook and Skype. On that mailing list there were 
> discussion about a polyglot protocol/application which could support 
> all networks so users wouldn't be forced to migrate which I think is 
> essential because a lot of people won't bother. There was mention to 
> Sockethub which seems quite cool, only for a bit different use case I 
> would say.
> Another thing I would like to mention is BitlBee it is a gateway 
> between various IM/chat networks and IRC so you can chat with friends 
> on Facebook using your favorite IRC client, or post a tweet on your 
> Twitter and use various other protocols. It even supports OTR.
> 
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