fuck ALL obscene systems of covert compromise and corruption [was: Geoff Stone, Obama's Review Group]

[juan.g71@gmail.com (Juan Garofalo)]

--On Sunday, April 06, 2014 8:30 PM -0700 coderman <coderman@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Juan Garofalo <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>         Are you joking? The 'NSA institutional entity' IS NOTHING BUT THE
>> COLLECTION OF NSA EMPLOYEES.
> 
> the evidence points otherwise.  you can see the compartmentalization
> at work in the leaks, in the way the technology is structured, in the
> constraints that some systems exhibit while others do not.
> 
> this is an interesting reverse engineering exercise, you should try it :)


	What I said is still true. Even if 'compartamentallized', the NSA is
nothing but its employees. 

	But fine, your point is that only 'some' people are doing 'bad' things
there? That whoever cleans bathrooms at the NSA doesn't know what the top
criminals are planning and doing? Mostly true, but I don't think too
relevant.  (even people who clean bathrooms at the NSA could be working
somewhere else)



> 
> 
> 
>>         Ah, yes, this team of murderers is bad 'as a team', but when you
>>         look at each individual murderer, individually they are
>> anarcho-libertarian-pacifists who live in a monastery in tibet.
> 
> i like some of their old work protecting things, rather than breaking
> them.


	Protect what from whom?



> 
> (are you really equating writing automated fuzzers with targeted
> murder by sniper fire? (drone snipers count))
>  


	I'm saying that the members of the military are morally responsible for
the crimes of the military. You might argue that some members are more
responsible than others, but fact is, they all 'believe' in the same core
murderous principles.