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[ale] too many logins



The biggest problem is that the login screen gets crowded with the names 
of other users who have logged in recently. Students don't see the box 
to enter a different user ID so they reboot the machine which kills off 
any  matlab or sage jobs somebody else might have started. After a 
reboot, the login screen has maybe one or two names on it. There must be 
some fairly complex algorithm for determining who gets on that list 
because I cannot see a pattern.



On 11/11/2014 12:15 PM, Ed Cashin wrote:
> I was reading kind of fast, but I'm not sure you pointed out any
> specific ill effects.  I'd expect the kernel to page to disk the pages
> in RAM associated with the unused sessions.  So once all the matlab
> state (etc.) is on the swap partition, there'd be little cost associated
> with a stale login as long as you have plenty of swap space.  Maybe
> everything is already fine now?
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod at gmail.com
> <mailto:fassl.tod at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>     On 11/11/2014 10:47 AM, JD wrote:
>
>         Is there a question?
>
>         On 11/11/2014 11:32 AM, Todor Fassl wrote:
>
>             I have a problem in a lab I am responsible for. The lab has
>             7 debian stable
>             machines. Students log in to check mail, browse the web,
>             etc. But they
>             frequently walk away without logging out. Soon enough, the
>             screen saver comes on
>             and the next person sits down and logs in as another user.
>             Often, the first
>             person comes back hours late or the next day and logs in a
>             second time. Some of
>             these machines have the same user logged in 5 or 6 times.
>
>             The problem is that some of these students start matlab,
>             sage, or magma jobs
>             before they walk away from the workstation. Those are
>             legitimate jobs and should
>             not be killed.  In fact, sometimes students ssh to these
>             machines and run
>             computations. It's kind of a bad idea but I'd rather not
>             tell them not to do
>             that. Otherwise, I'd just have the machines reboot
>             themselves every  night.
>
>             We used to use a tool called timeoutd but it seems to have
>             been removed from the
>             debian stable and ubuntu archives.  I was never able to get
>             it to work right
>             anyway. Students would complain that their jobs had been
>             killed or that they
>             were logged out while they were typing away. At the same
>             time, I could see that
>             other users were still logged in after days/weeks of
>             inactivity. I am not sure
>             the problem really was with timeoutd because finger often
>             gave me weird
>             results.I'm not sure linux was giving timeoutd correct data
>             to work with.
>
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