[ale] Do all new large SATA drives suck?

[jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney)]

But with the price difference it's easy to throw more spindles at the
solution for speed and capacity with sata.
On Mar 2, 2012 11:38 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at water.com> wrote:

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>  We have a disk array that has had 24 x 2 TB disks since Nov 2010.  I
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> The main ?suck? of large SATA is they are often much slower (e.g. 7200
> RPM) than smaller SAS drives that are available.****
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> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Hubbs
> *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 11:28 AM
> *To:* neal at mnopltd.com; ** Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts**
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] Do all new large SATA drives suck?****
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> Consider that the vast majority of people buy and use those drives without
> incident and never think to put a review saying so on any one particular
> vendor site.
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> On 3/2/12 11:18 AM, Neal Rhodes wrote: ****
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> I've gone ahead and ordered an HP core i3 system to be our next Centos
> home/office server.
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> It's  got a 1.5TB drive; normally on these off-lease units I'd buy two
> brand new drives and mirror them.  Or that's what we've done with the last
> 3 linux servers.     All of which are still technically functioning since
> Fedora core 1.
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> This drive is likely about a year old, so I'm thinking I'll just buy a new
> 1.5TB drive and install Centos to mirror the primary.
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> When I look at the crop of 1 - 1.5TB drives on TigerDirect and read the
> reviews, they seem to be uniformly terrible - DOA,  failed after 3 weeks,
> replacement failed after a week, etc.  Seagate seems to be the worst,
> although WD not too far behind.
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> Ummm, isn't one of the primary selling features of a disk drive that it's
> not supposed to blow up and take down all your data with it?    Has there
> been a massive quality slip in the last couple years since I last bought
> drives?    Seriously -  I can lose a power supply, a motherboard, a display
> - you name it, and once I replace it I can expect to still have the
> data.    Yes, I should do backups, and I do, and yes, I should mirror the
> drives, and I do.    I should do SMARTD monitoring and I do.  But isn't
> this like selling tires that tend to shred randomly?    Isn't not blowing
> up catastrophically with no warning beforehand a basic selling point for
> disk drives?    What's the point of mirroring if the odds are good that
> both drives will fail completely the same week?   What's the point of
> SMARTD monitoring if the darn drive quits without warning?
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> Does anybody make a decent drive in that size range?
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> I'm thinking that not even considering economy,  my old theory of buying a
> pair of new identical drives may not be wise anymore, and sticking with one
> drive that has lasted over a year and one new drive is a better plan.
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> Thoughts?
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> Neal
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