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[ale] why I love windows
- Subject: [ale] why I love windows
- From: Richard at Bronosky.com (Richard Bronosky)
- Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:58:14 -0500
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]>
- References: <CAEo=5PzGH-kVeN8ZOYr9U-baJyGcfsG8SJcp6cs54=y_jC59RA@mail.gmail.com> <[email protected]>
A tool like that will never make sudi obsolete. Escalating privileges must
be an intentional exercise. Just because my user has the right to escalate
to root privileges does not mean I want to be able to rm -rf / without
explicit-ness. That would lead to a different form of explicit-ness.
On Jan 30, 2012 2:01 PM, "mike at trausch.us" <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
> On 01/30/2012 01:46 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > Solution to the windows installer not running: (to install an .msi
> > program an installer SERVICE must be running to understand what to do.
> > what total crap.)
>
> I could see using a similar model for Linux systems; actually, most
> desktop systems these days use privileged helper services so that they
> can delegate certain types of authority without giving the user the
> ability to actually change their active user accounts, for example. If
> enough other infrastructure-y components were written for it, it would
> be possible to do things like say ?user Foo Bag can install software
> packages but not remove them?, or ?user Bar Bag can remove software
> packages but not install them? for example.
>
> The major difference, though is that IIRC PolicyKit doesn?t require that
> services are running all the time. It simply requires that they be
> registered with D-Bus or something so that they can be spawned when
> needed. Services using that interface are free to exit immediately or
> after an application-determined period of inactivity.
>
> I need to get around to looking at applications that use PolicyKit so
> that I can more completely understand how to use it, but I think that
> the split there is very nice; it could potentially make tools like sudo
> obsolete. There are even command-line applications that have been
> experimentally ported to use PolicyKit, though I cannot remember any of
> them off the top of my head.
>
> --- Mike
>
> --
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> than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
> --- Carveth Read, ?Logic?
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