[ale] Defective MoBo?

[mike at trausch.us (Michael Trausch)]

In many cases they used to. They would also include disks with programs to
check memory and various controllers. Of late those sorts of things only
come with prefabs.

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On Jan 22, 2011 10:25 AM, "Jim Lynch" <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
> On 01/21/2011 10:59 PM, Michael B. Trausch wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 22:17 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote:
>>> Sorry for using bandwidth on this, but I again asked Gigabyte if I
>>> could
>>> just RMA the board and here is their response:
>>>
>>> "Since Linux is open source we are unable to verify it, we suggest
>>> testing with Windows based OS. It does not need to be Windows 7"
>>>
>>> I've already informed them that I don't have Windows and really can't
>>> afford to buy it just to prove or disprove that this board is bad.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>> Right, because it is ever so much easier to "verify" an opaque binary
>> blob.
>>
>> I seriously question the knowledge of the people behind some of these
>> companies. They are making hardware, which is by definition neutral of
>> an operating system in particular. Being that they are creating
>> hardware (or at least, creating boards that use hardware that they
>> supposedly have the specs for), it should be relatively easy for them to
>> create a driver for any operating system; particularly one that is "open
>> source" because there are so many people who are able to work on the
>> bloody thing *and* the whole API is actually available in (somewhat
>> readable) source code form.
>>
>> For fuck's sake, it would not be *all* that hard to build a minimalistic
>> framework built around the Linux kernel (or for that matter, any member
>> of the BSD family, if they're worried about being forced to commit
>> indecent exposure) and provide a disk that boots up the kernel and loads
>> a minimalistic program that can validate that all the hardware is up and
>> running correctly and operating within specified parameters. They used
>> to do similar things with DOS-based boot floppies and CDs, and that was
>> a much more difficult task.
>>
>> Is there such a thing as a hardware manufacturer that knows what
>> supporting their product *actually* means? I mean, seriously. You'd
>> think that motherboard manufacturers were in the business of selling
>> illicit drugs, not selling and supporting their own hardware.
>>
>> --- Mike
> Just an observation, I don't think MB manufacturers write drivers. I
> think the drivers come from the people who furnish the chip sets. I'd
> be willing to bet if you talked to the sis or via or Intel or whatever
> chipset folks wrote that software, they'd tell you the truth.
>
> Jim.
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