Mobo or cpu or ram are bad. 2 os both croaked. One from hard drve and the other from cd. Most likely mobo as route to power down is convoluted for bad ram or cpu. On Oct 11, 2010 1:13 AM, "Joe Knapka" <jknapka at kneuro.net> wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.ale.org/pipermail/ale/attachments/20101011/d30402ca/attachment.html