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  Ale has always been great for the newbies and some of the elder
users as well.  Fragmenting the group though does all a dis-service.  One
of the best ways I've found is to go answering questions for those who
don't know, especially if I don't have the topic expertise yet.  I've
never been too good to turn down a question, too busy maybe but not too
good or advanced.

  Maybe meetings should start having more advanced topics as well.  Some
newbies may come in over their heads but that's a great way to learn as
well.  Being thrown in over your head is a great way to generate more
questions.

  As for the way off topic and over heated conversations, that's an easy
one.  Mutt has ctrl-D and cap-D commands.  They solve those fights real
easily and without any stress.


Thus spake Christopher Fowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):

> I've been a member of this list since 1995. I feel that I've grown with
> Linux and that this group has not.  This is probably because the group's
> purpose is to cater to the newbies and those that could be classified as
> enthusiasts.  I've been doing Linux since 1995 as a career and not just
> on the side in my spare time.  Naturally spending 8/hrs a day for that
> long involved would make one very good at this OS.   The topics at that
> ale meetings are more geared for those newbies.  I wish there was a more
> advanced Linux group in Atlanta for those like me that want to discuss
> more then setting up Samba, printing, etc.  
> 
> I've been doing some awesome stuff with Linux and I've not really found
> anyone here in Atlanta that is doing something on the same level. 
> 
> On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 22:05, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
> > Easy fellas. Both of you are too valuable to lose. Just take a step
> > back and relax. I think the situation last week spun out of control
> > because there was no easy "out" for some of the parties involved. I
> > don't think that will be a regular occurance.
> > 
> > --
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > On 5/23/05, Jerald Sheets <jsheets at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > That pretty much goes for me too.
> > > 
> > > I'm tired of answering questions with UNQUESTIONABLE
> > > sysadmin techniques and procedures with 400 messages
> > > of tripe.
> > > 
> > > I've done all I can to be a good netizen with this
> > > group, but there are too many people who wish to argue
> > > for the sake of arguaing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jerald
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Ben Scherrey <scherrey at proteus-tech.com> wrote:
> > > > Remarkably its now been a few weeks since I've seen
> > > > any significant
> > > > on-topic traffic here and even that wasn't up to
> > > > what I used to expect
> > > > from ALE. I have too many mailing lists as it is so
> > > > I guess its time for
> > > > this one to go. For all you who participated in the
> > > > more interesting and
> > > > useful topics - thanx. I may return some day - most
> > > > likely if I run into
> > > > some esoteric linux issue and feel the need to give
> > > > the list another
> > > > shot at being useful. As it is now, that's no longer
> > > > the case.
> > > >
> > > >     -- Ben Scherrey
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> > > > Ale mailing list
> > > > Ale at ale.org
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