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I was NOT suggesting that. You misunderstand my point.

> What exactly is it that you expect anyone to prove by accessing a
> machine with no data on it? 

I did NOT say there would be no data, I just meant to say that I'll remove the 
most private data (like a phone list and a small journal) for THIS challenge.
I typically leave that on - but have other security features outside of the 
challenge.

> Furthermore, how will the machine "hand me 
> my ass" if I fail to gain access to data that is not there in the
> first place?

Prevent you from doing other things like permanently damaging my system.
The run-as-root argument was centered not so much around data loss, but other 
exploits and vulnerabilities.

>
> This is rather like having a slam dunk contest on a tennis court. I'll
> stand by my statement that you appear to be an idiot.
> Jonathan

Sad. You don't even need to "go there" for this thread . . . well, perhaps you 
feel you do. You misunderstand my intent - and then perceive me as an idiot.
Perhaps I'm a poor communicator . . . but that still does not warrant your 
behavior.
-- 
Wishing you Happiness, Joy, and Laughter,
Drew Brown
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