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Neither would I demonstrate how to do what I 'claim' I can do, as it 
provides no real learning experience. I'll see if I can use these toys 
to produce a useful effort, like, I don't know, pull a fax from my 
computer to my phone. I tinker with all kinds of hardware.  I 
specifically picked up the cell phone I have because it has gprs, 
bluetooth, ir, java support, removable MCC card and a host of other 
goodies.  It's a learning tool for me, more so then a communication 
device.  I've got 4 pda's, one I use religiously, the other three to 
learn and play.  I've got 5 laptops in pieces just to the left of my 
feet.  Working on putting those things to work in my truck to make it a 
rolling techno toy.  I hope you get the point...

> (Of course, I would point the challenge at Rickman and other people who claim 
> to be more experienced with security than others on this list - rather than 
> Geoffrey). I'd go for the self-promoting ones.

I apologize to Jonathan on your behalf.

-- 
Until later, Geoffrey


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