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On 5/18/05, ChangingLINKS.com &lt;<a  rel="nofollow" href="http://ChangingLINKS.com";>http://ChangingLINKS.com</a>&gt; &lt;
groups at changinglinks.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; your ability to restore to a clean state quickly is NOT what this
&gt; &gt; discussion is about. Anybody can image a drive, keep a hot-swap, or
&gt; &gt; whatnot. That's not the point.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --George
&gt; 
&gt; Oh GEEZ!
&gt; 
&gt; Go back through the thread, Carless.
&gt; What IS the point?
&gt; The point (now) is whether or not Linux can be run as root safely.
&gt; Some say &quot;No.&quot; They give a list of reasons why including:
&gt; The machine becoming a zombie, less security, fumble fingers, etc.
&gt; 
&gt; By structuring the challenge THIS WAY (as in &quot;do ANYTHING to my box&quot;) I am
&gt; allowing for all of those &quot;bad things&quot; to happen. The worst of the worst.
&gt; Bring everything you listed WHILE I am running as root.
&gt; 
&gt; To be able to shrug off ALL of those problems is the point.
&gt; 
&gt; To be able to run as root with reasonable safety is the point.
&gt; --
&gt; Wishing you Happiness, Joy, and Laughter,
&gt; Drew Brown
&gt; <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ChangingLINKS.com";>http://www.ChangingLINKS.com</a>
&gt; 
&gt; P.S. I add &quot;reasonable&quot; here because people will start mentioning things 
&gt; like
&gt; physically removing the box from the house or coming up with tests THEIR
&gt; computers wouldn't pass running as root or not.
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