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On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 09:39 +0000, aaron wrote:
> And you expected anything different after these unethical, Orwellian, big 
> brother, massive government, bomb and bankrupt, immoral, fascist frauds were 
> tacitly allowed to seize unrestrained control of our government?
> 
> The Irrational ID fraud is just another of their vomitous "nuclear" terrorist 
> actions against our freedoms. The end goal is to carpet bomb our U.S. 
> political landscape into a barren, uninhabitable, irradiated toxic wasteland 
> prison for every working class citizen, delivering a mute, brain washed, fear 
> driven, superstitious and supplicant population into impoverished corporate 
> servitude.  At least that is what their relentless litany of corrupt 
> policies, economic incompetence, legislative war on  constitutional liberties  
> and satanic, hate based assaults against justice and christian principles 
> would suggest.
> 
> peace
> (because the only free nation will be a nation of peace)
> aaron
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday 09 May 2005 17:46, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > ./ is running a story on the RealID card, also if you are against it
&gt; &gt; here is a site with more info: <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.unrealid.com/";>http://www.unrealid.com/</a>  Certainly this
&gt; &gt; is a subject that deserves more scrutiny. 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; -Jim P.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:32 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 16:15 -0400, Randal Jarrett wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Bad news follows good!!
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [snip]
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The worst part is the completely machine-readable/automatic 
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; nature of the thing -- you might not even know you're giving 
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; your information away.&quot; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Isn't that exactly the state of the current mess?  How many
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;unauthorized consumer information disclosures&quot; were reported in the
&gt; &gt; &gt; past 6 months, how many weren't reported?  Thieves are abusing the
&gt; &gt; &gt; current ID situation so much that drivers licenses are as bad a joke as
&gt; &gt; &gt; social security cards.  
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Frankly the US States have done a horrible job of issuing consistent
&gt; &gt; &gt; quality IDs.  Most banks consider your ATM card (w/ picture) better ID
&gt; &gt; &gt; than your state drivers license.   Even college ID cards are better
&gt; &gt; &gt; managed than state issued IDs.
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; I'm not 100% for a national ID, but I am 100% for a national standard
&gt; &gt; &gt; for ID as well as a national standard for retention of personal data.
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Btw, my US Passport trumps all other ID no matter where I go.  The US
&gt; &gt; &gt; government did get it right with Passports, and they probably will get
&gt; &gt; &gt; it right with something like RealID.
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; Let me know if they start talking about tattooing it across your
&gt; &gt; &gt; forehead. ;-)
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; -Jim P. 
&gt; &gt; &gt; 
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