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- <li><em>date</em>: Thu Jun 2 13:38:23 2005</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: jimpop at yahoo.com (Jim Popovitch)</li>
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I DO know now to install individual packages in the middle of the night
while on vacation in Bora Bora. What I want is to NOT have to do
that. ;-)
-Jim P.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 12:32 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> The JRE is simple to install on any platform; just download it and
> install it to /usr/java [default it seems] or /opt/java or whatever
> and add it to your path. I have found that the free implementations of
> java are crash prone. So, I stick with the non-free original
> implementation.
>
> Apache 2.0 is just about as easy. The first build can take some time
> while you determine what configure options you want to use but there
> after all you have to do is use the config.nice file that is
> generated.
>
> Spamassassin and ClamAV can be a bit tricky. I used Spamassassing from
> the unstable repository when I was using my desktop as my private
> email server and it worked well. I don't know how crusty the one in
> the stable archive is. However, adding the following two lines to your
> sources.list will fix that:
> deb <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.backports.org/debian">http://www.backports.org/debian</a> stable clamav
> deb <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.backports.org/debian">http://www.backports.org/debian</a> stable spamassassin
>
> Sure, it could be one line but I like to keep them separated so I know
> how many potentially dangerous packages I am using.
>
> Those examples really don't give me a reason to say that the stable
> branch is too old. There are easy solutions to the problems and the
> base system remains stable. Yes, I can see where this is a problem for
> people that want to use only the official repository and package
> manager. But, I find that to be a limited view of the operating
> system's abilities. Done correctly, Debian can be extended beyond what
> is in stable without sacrificing all of the benefits of it.
>
> On 6/2/05, Jim Popovitch <jimpop at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:42 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> > > I have yet to hear anything to back up the "I need newer features"
> > > statement. People that have a distaste for Debian stable love to use
> > > it but they never give examples of it. What packages in testing or
> > > unstable are necessary for you to run Debian on a server? Please, give
> > > me some examples.
> >
> > How about these: Spamassassin, ClamAV, Apache 2.0, a recent JRE, ;-)
> > These aren't my requirements for Debian, just similar pain that I deal
> > with over on the Redhat side of the world. ;-)
> >
> > -Jim P.
>
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