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I DO know now to install individual packages in the middle of the night
while on vacation in Bora Bora.  What I want is to NOT have to do
that.  ;-)

-Jim P.

On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 12:32 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
> The JRE is simple to install on any platform; just download it and
> install it to /usr/java [default it seems] or /opt/java or whatever
> and add it to your path. I have found that the free implementations of
> java are crash prone. So, I stick with the non-free original
> implementation.
> 
> Apache 2.0 is just about as easy. The first build can take some time
> while you determine what configure options you want to use but there
> after all you have to do is use the config.nice file that is
> generated.
> 
> Spamassassin and ClamAV can be a bit tricky. I used Spamassassing from
> the unstable repository when I was using my desktop as my private
> email server and it worked well. I don't know how crusty the one in
> the stable archive is. However, adding the following two lines to your
> sources.list will fix that:
&gt; deb <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.backports.org/debian";>http://www.backports.org/debian</a> stable clamav
&gt; deb <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.backports.org/debian";>http://www.backports.org/debian</a> stable spamassassin
&gt; 
&gt; Sure, it could be one line but I like to keep them separated so I know
&gt; how many potentially dangerous packages I am using.
&gt; 
&gt; Those examples really don't give me a reason to say that the stable
&gt; branch is too old. There are easy solutions to the problems and the
&gt; base system remains stable. Yes, I can see where this is a problem for
&gt; people that want to use only the official repository and package
&gt; manager. But, I find that to be a limited view of the operating
&gt; system's abilities. Done correctly, Debian can be extended beyond what
&gt; is in stable without sacrificing all of the benefits of it.
&gt; 
&gt; On 6/2/05, Jim Popovitch &lt;jimpop at yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt; On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:42 -0400, James Sumners wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; I have yet to hear anything to back up the &quot;I need newer features&quot;
&gt; &gt; &gt; statement. People that have a distaste for Debian stable love to use
&gt; &gt; &gt; it but they never give examples of it. What packages in testing or
&gt; &gt; &gt; unstable are necessary for you to run Debian on a server? Please, give
&gt; &gt; &gt; me some examples.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; How about these:  Spamassassin, ClamAV, Apache 2.0, a recent JRE,  ;-)
&gt; &gt; These aren't my requirements for Debian, just similar pain that I deal
&gt; &gt; with over on the Redhat side of the world.  ;-)
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; -Jim P.
&gt; 


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