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- <li><em>date</em>: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:18:24 -0400</li>
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For example, the 1-D elementary cellular automaton known as Rule 30
produces a pattern whose characteristic is statistically
indistinguishable from randomness (see
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Rule30.html">http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Rule30.html</a>). This finding, to me, is
astonishing and tosses a giant spanner into the I.D. notion that complex
structures cannot arise from simple, granular processes that operate
according to simple, finite rules.
Jeff
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 12:53 +0000, aaron wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 August 2005 19:24, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > Who the heck started this thread? :-)
> >
> > I'm surprised this hasn't morphed into Intelligent Design vs Evolution
> > yet? :-)
>
> Perhaps that's because there is not any real conflict between fanciful
> defenses of mystic mythology and the factual science which they inevitably
> affirm. :-)
>
> By definition, the "intelligent design" philosophy argues that the
> complexities of the universe and our human ingenuity are the self
> referential proof of an intelligent force underlying our existence. As this
> assertion relies entirely on scientific inquiry to provide evidence for the
> complexity of the universe, it is nothing more than another argument for
> evolution. In the end, the I.D. philosophy cannot deny the ultimate
> intelligence of a life system design which has autonomously produced
> reasoning beings capable of inventing and employing the scientific processes
> which, in kind, reveal the genius of design in the life mechanisms that
> underly their own existence and intelligence.
>
> Stating it another way, if there were a Great Omnipotent Deity behind the
> existence of the universe, then the best argument for this ultimate
> intelligence would be a universe comprised entirely of the cyclic, self
> sustaining and evolutionary mechanisms that human science uncovers and
> explores. The perfect intelligent universe will allow that its all powerful
> creator need never lift a finger beyond the Big Bang; just light the fuse,
> pop a cold one, sit back and enjoy the fireworks! There's nothing more
> elegantly intelligent than the idea of spark once, run forever! If there is
> an omnipotent intelligence responsible for amazing clockworks of the
> universe, then human ingenuity is the end product by which the intelligence
> of their autonomous, perpetual and evolutionary designs can be acknowledged,
> and our intelligent processes of factual scientific discovery are the
> ultimate homage to their genius.
>
> :-)
>
> peace
> (because the only sane nation is a nation at peace)
> aaron
>
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