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IMHO the only way that OOo is "best" is in it's Microsoft
compatibility.  It's feature set is pretty good, too, though I don't
need most of that, usually.  OOo has crappy drag-n-drop support, for a
start.  I find the UI pretty unintuitive in many ways.  The file finder
is horrible.  It's a huge memory hog.  It is horribly slow to start up. 
I do hope we can leverage it into a good suite.  It would be nice if
their MSOffice import filters were reusable.  I know that there is a
project to make it a better KDE citizen, which I hope succeeds.

> > GNOME doesn't really have a browser, either, and KDE does.
> 
&gt; Ummm... <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/";>http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/</a>
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Mozilla
&gt; &gt; isn't GNOME and the GNOME one isn't complete.  Konqueror is fast and
&gt; &gt; lightweight, and lets me browse filesystems, http, ftp, sftp, smb, etc
&gt; &gt; all in one place.  It does a nice job handling all kinds of plugins and
&gt; &gt; embedded viewers.
&gt; 
&gt; So does GNOME.  Try typing &quot;s<a  rel="nofollow" href="ftp://hostname&quot";>ftp://hostname&quot</a>; or &quot;smb://hostname&quot; in the
&gt; &quot;Location: &quot; box in Nautilus.

Cool.  I think I'd heard about this.  When my wife was using GNOME we
had a lot of troubles with Nautilus.  I hope it is still being worked on
cause it showed a lot of promise.

&gt; &gt; And because of the way KDE works, all applications can handle remote
&gt; &gt; filesystems.  From my kate editor I can read/save files on ftp sites, or
&gt; &gt; over sftp.  We do so much sftping around here and I can usually move
&gt; &gt; files faster than anyone else because of KDE.  (There are some really
&gt; &gt; cool libraries out that that leverage KDE and user file systems to
&gt; &gt; enable all applications to do this.  The coolest use I've seen is the
&gt; &gt; &quot;gmail file system&quot; which lets you mount your gmail account and execute
&gt; &gt; files from it.  I gotta try it.)
&gt; 
&gt; Nice.  Not sure if GNOME does this or not.  Can't imagine it'd be a lot of
&gt; work, since Nautilus already supports browsing, etc.

I don't think it does.  I don't believe that you can, say, attach a file
from an sftp server in an email in evolution.  In fact, the file browser
doesn't even have a place to enter the URL.

&gt; &gt; Is that enough?  Maybe it is time to have the GNOME vs. KDE shootout at
&gt; &gt; some ALE meeting.  Any volunteers?
&gt; 
&gt; Ha...not for me.  In fact, after receiving your email this morning, I
&gt; rebooted my session into KDE with the intent of trying it for a week.
&gt; 
&gt; I lasted around 30 minutes.
&gt; 
&gt; I just find GNOME to be a cleaner, more pleasing desktop experience.  KDE
&gt; seems ugly to me.  I suppose it's because I've been with GNOME for so
&gt; long, but KDE just doesn't jive.  I want to like it, but can't :)

I can relate.  Just like me, now, only backwards.  :-)

Michael


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