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In defense, Jim may have been referring to becoming FD&H (fat, dumd, and
happy) syndrom.  But I'll leave it up to Jim to clarify ( since I just
gave him a possible out :-)

If the above is not true, maybe Jim can point us to aa employer / field
that might better serve us.

Steve




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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Geoffrey wrote:

> Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-10-05 at 19:51, Carolinux.com wrote:
> >
> >>I coded 4 BofA 4 23 years until...
> >
> >
> > LOOSER!!!  Anyone who works that long for the same company can't
> > possibly have any ambition.
>
> I find that insulting.  I put in 26 years with AT&T.  When you work for
> a large company like that, it's like working for multiple companies.  I
> did C, perl, java, web development, sys admin...  Further, I started out
> driving a fork lift.  Got my degree on their nickel going part time
> while working full time.  Yeah, I know, that's the stupid way to do it.
>   Advanced from the fork truck driver to the 2nd highest technical
> position in the corporation.
>
> Don't tell me I don't have ambition.
>
> For those of us who have invested a lot of time in a company with the
> promise of a pension and such, you can't afford to just jump ship.  I'd
> been wanting to leave AT&T for a good 10 years, but it would have been
> quite foolish.  After 10 you're vested.  When I did, I retained my full
> pension, 401k, medical benefits, life insurance, along with a year
> severance.
>
> Just because someone spends a lot of time with one company doesn't mean
> they don't have ambition.
>
> --
> Until later, Geoffrey       Registered Linux User #108567
>                              AT&T Certified UNIX System Programmer - 1995
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