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They always distribute the DVD of each FC release as they come out.  (and
it's not a bad rag, either)

--Jerald 

> -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a  rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org] On 
&gt; Behalf Of Christopher Fowler
&gt; Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:47 AM
&gt; To: Michael Still
&gt; Cc: ale at ale.org
&gt; Subject: Re: [ale] ftp.ale.org
&gt; 
&gt; On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 10:40, Michael Still wrote:
&gt; &gt; Oh yeah it was pegged at 100mbit/s outgoing. Its a lot 
&gt; slower right now, 
&gt; &gt; but they're working on fixing that.
&gt; 
&gt; Damn!  That was many people downloading from it.
&gt; Maybe I should just create a service where people from ale 
&gt; send me a few
&gt; bucks on PayPal and I'll mail them the FC3 DVD or ISOs.  I have plenty
&gt; of media and do not mind.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; I'm sure others can do the same. for those with little or no 
&gt; bandwidth. 
&gt; But that would not solve the problem of keeping ftp.ale.org 
&gt; traffic to a
&gt; low for updates and misc. files.
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:38 am, Christopher Fowler wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks,
&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; So was the ale box really using that much bandwidth?  I 
&gt; downloaded FC3
&gt; &gt; &gt; DVD and it took much longer.  No problem though I was not 
&gt; in any rush.
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 10:28, Michael Still wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  Well not really. I'd have to find some examples and 
&gt; look at those. 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; See I
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  didn't do anything specific to a certain protocol which 
&gt; is what I 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; assume
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  your talking about. Look at wondershaper and some other 
&gt; things called
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  cbq.init and hbq.init on the net. They're shell scripts 
&gt; that use the 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; tc
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  command.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 8:42 am, Christopher Fowler wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; Do you know how I could do this on my firewall on a 
&gt; per IP basis?
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt; On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:47, Michael Still wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Its not as clear as I would like, but the way I'm 
&gt; doing it is 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; with the
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  tool 'tc'.  I just looked on the net for examples 
&gt; on using it to 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; get
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  what I'm going to put on the site.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Eg:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;    tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: cbq avpkt 
&gt; 1000 bandwidth
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; 100mbit
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;    tc class add dev eth0 parent 1: classid 1:1 cbq 
&gt; rate 80mbit 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; allot
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; 1500
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  prio 5 bounded isolated
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;    tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip prio 
&gt; 16 u32 match 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; ip
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; dst
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  0.0.0.0/0 flowid 1:1
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  This sets the cap at about 50mbits/s. I had to 
&gt; experiment a bit 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; to get
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  the 80mbit value in there.  With the same tool you 
&gt; can increase or
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  decrease priorities on traffic.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 9:39 am, Christopher Fowler wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:34, Michael Still wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Yeah I thought they were rate capping the box, 
&gt; but the switch 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; its
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  connected to can't do that. So they're putting 
&gt; the site on a 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; new
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; switch
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  within a week or two, but for now I'm gonna put 
&gt; a cap in the 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; IP
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; stack
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  itself once they put it back on net.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; Can you give me a pointer on how to do that.  I 
&gt; still have not 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; found
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; good useful info on OS in Linux.  I want to make 
&gt; my VIP take
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; precedence
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; and also limit SMTP traffic.  If I could find a 
&gt; book on this
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; subject I
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; would buy it.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 9:31 am, Christopher Fowler wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; Obviously no QoS was implemented?
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 09:23, Michael Still wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  It should be back soon. They had to pull 
&gt; the plug because 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; it
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; was
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; pushing
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  so much data it was affecting customers on the same 
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; switch.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 9:20 am, Christopher 
&gt; Fowler wrote:
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; What gives?  I've not been able to 
&gt; communicate for a few
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; days.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt; I'm
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; looking for a blazing fast site to get FC3 on DVD.
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; Thanks,
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; Chris
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt; _______________________________________________
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&gt; -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Michael Still (MichaelStill at tmail.com)
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  
&gt; -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Michael Still (MichaelStill at tmail.com)
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  Michael Still (MichaelStill at tmail.com)
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
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&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  -------------------------------------------------------
&gt; &gt; -------------------------------------------------------
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&gt; &gt; -------------------------------------------------------
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