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- <li><em>date</em>: Wed Nov 3 20:54:04 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: jimpop at yahoo.com (Jim Popovitch)</li>
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Yes they are. Both are machines, both count/control critical functions,
both produce data that is analyzed by an external device.
> The Diebold machines hide the voting process from their users
> and even their operators,
No more so than a calculator hides the process by which mathematical
calculations are achieved. One could argue that the Diebold box does
even less than a calculator.
> putting the company and parties unknown into a position to subvert
> the election process with little fear of detection.
Sure, if you want to believe that. I don't. That is just too extreme
for me to think that a company would willingly produce something that
could ruin itself. You are just grasping for straws by suggesting such
a possibility.
> OSS voting machines and the means to prove that the OSS in question is
> really running on the machines is the only way to computerize the
> process with integrity.
What about the hardware and the firmware that the OSS runs on? If
Diebold's black-box solution won't satisfy you how can some OSS app on
some other black-box?
-Jim P.
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