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Jerald Sheets wrote:

&gt;Let me repost my experience with the Bank One morons so you guys can be
&gt;prepared for whatever you might come across:
&gt;
&gt;Leap if you like, but &quot;I told you so&quot;.
&gt;
&gt;--JMS
&gt;
&gt;----------------------------------------
&gt;
&gt;Well...
&gt;
&gt;Pull up by the fire kiddies, and I'll tell you a story of cluelessness
&gt;and intrigue.  One of a major bank company in Columbus, Ohio and the
&gt;people they take a dump on.
&gt;
&gt;Back in early 2002, I was realizing that my taking a position in this
&gt;hole called Baton Rouge was most likely a mistake.  My best friend and I
&gt;were looking for a job...any job in a better part of the country with
&gt;better schools, etc. etc.
&gt;
&gt;We were both contacted by Bank One within a day of each other.  After a
&gt;pretty lengthy interview process, they decided it was prudent to bring
&gt;us both up for interviews.  I went first, my friend the following week.
&gt;
&gt;When I arrived, I was put up in the local Mariott, which was nice.
&gt;That's where nice ended.  I was instructed to phone one Joel Spieth
&gt;first thing in the morning to talk with him.  Aparently he was a veep of
&gt;some sort over the Midrange systems group.  We had a cordial
&gt;conversation with the usual questions.  He asked about what my favorite
&gt;job was ad why, etc. etc.
&gt;
&gt;When I got off the phone with him, my driver picked me up to go over for
&gt;a drug test.  By the time I had filled the cup, the driver had
&gt;instructions to bring me to the airport.  (my flight wasn't until the
&gt;next day)  I called Bank One to explain.  None.  I re-called Joel...he
&gt;wouldn't answer.  I called the early interviewers, and they had heard
&gt;nothing, and it distressed tham, as they thought I was a great fit...I
&gt;called HR, they had no word other than to send me home.
&gt;
&gt;It took THREE WEEKS for someone to pry out of Mr. Spieth that he had me
&gt;sent home.  Also, the reason *why* he sent me home.  I finally had to
&gt;get the answer through my recruiter.  It's quoted below:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;  
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Joel was unhappy with ... you answer to, &quot;what was the best job you
&gt;&gt;    
&gt;&gt;
&gt;have had and why.&quot; To the question about 'best job and why' you
&gt;responded, according to Joel, that there     &gt;was one particular
&gt;position you had where you were on call and out of the office most of
&gt;the time and no one knew what you were doing. 
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Let me relate the story in short:  I had related my experience at a firm
&gt;where we had so integrated our monitoring solution with a remote
&gt;response solution that we could actually be out of the office for lunch
&gt;or a doctor's visit and respond to incidents via our 2-way pager.
&gt;Moreover, we had been taken to a Redskins game as a treat by the staff,
&gt;and actually had an event while there.  I picked up my pager, issued a
&gt;response diretive, and resolved an issue from the game, never havng to
&gt;phone anyone or leave the game.
&gt;
&gt;It's customary (and only polite) to finish the interview process if you
&gt;have the person in town, all flown in an dressed up.  No such nicetie.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Fast forward to my buddies interview.
&gt;
&gt;He arrived in the morning, but had no such similar interview with Joel.
&gt;He did the drug test and went in.  When he arrived there, NONE of the
&gt;people he was scheduled to see were in at all.  NONE.  Nada.  Nil.  He
&gt;sat around speaking with various other team members here and there, and
&gt;eventually had to catch his shuttle to come home.  When he returned,
&gt;people whom he had never seen or interviewed with said he either hadn't
&gt;come in, or they hadn't seen him and weren't sure why.  They essentally
&gt;dissed him in a number of ways just like I was.
&gt;
&gt;I'm told by some inside source sysadmins that Joel is no longer directly
&gt;in that same position, but is still an unholy terror to work with, and
&gt;at a whim can send you packing due to his high level in the company.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;New friends, please step lightly.  I don't know if they're still this
&gt;brand of broken, but I doubt it.  This position (specifically in the
&gt;midrange group) has come open no less than ten times in the last two
&gt;years. This tells me that something is horribly broken there.  
&gt;
&gt;If you decide to go for it, good luck, but please be sure it is
&gt;something you really, really match and want to do.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Thanks for listening.
&gt;
&gt;Jerald
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;-----Original Message-----
&gt;From: ale-bounces at ale.org [<a  rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ale-bounces";>mailto:ale-bounces</a> at ale.org] On Behalf Of
&gt;Chris Farris
&gt;Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 5:54 AM
&gt;To: ale at ale.org
&gt;Subject: [ale] Job
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;----- Forwarded message from unemployed-owner at ale.org -----
&gt;
&gt;Subject: Unix/Linux Infrastructure Position 
&gt;From: jeffrey_w_earnheart at bankone.com
&gt;Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:33:25 -0400
&gt;
&gt;Bank One is 
&gt;
&gt;Seeking an Open Systems Engineer, to be located in Columbus, Ohio.  We 
&gt;offer great benefits and relocation package.  Please contact Jeff 
&gt;Earnheart at 614-213-7319 for more information.  Or email a resume to 
&gt;Jeffery_W_Earnheart at bankone.com to be considered. 
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Internal Position Description:
&gt;This is a Unix Infrastructure Engineering position within the Enterprise
&gt;
&gt;Midrange (EM) organization. An Open System Engineer's duties will
&gt;include 
&gt;a combination of systems architecture, systems development, Unix/Linux
&gt;OS 
&gt;lifecycle development, technical assessments and recommendations,
&gt;standard 
&gt;tool deployments and support, server builds, project planning, standards
&gt;
&gt;validation/development, technical documentation, presentation to 
&gt;management, and troubleshooting and problem resolution. This position
&gt;may 
&gt;require lifting heavy computers and related items. Open System Engineer 
&gt;positions will work a normal workweek and require rotational on-call
&gt;Tier 
&gt;III support responsibilities
&gt;
&gt;Job Requirements:
&gt;
&gt; 
&gt;BS in computer technology related field or comparable experience. The 
&gt;ideal candidate will have 3 to 4 years of systems engineering
&gt;experience, 
&gt;including 3 or more years of systems and implementation engineering 
&gt;experience in complex large-scale IT environments. Current skill-sets
&gt;must 
&gt;include: * Current expertise in SUN/Solaris and Linux platforms. * 
&gt;Experience with Authentication products such as Keon, Powerbroker, LDPA,
&gt;
&gt;etc. * Experience implementing UNIX Security best practices. * Solid 
&gt;technical knowledge of SAN infrastructure, systems clustering, and
&gt;volume 
&gt;management. * Hands-on engineering and implementation experience with 
&gt;TCP/IP networks. * Experience with systems monitoring products such as 
&gt;Compaq Insight Manager, Netfinity, Tivoli, HP OpenView, BindView, etc. *
&gt;
&gt;Demonstrable experience with functional requirements assurance, complex 
&gt;project activities, and project management. * Experience working within 
&gt;systems life cycle processes. * Strong quality assurance and systems 
&gt;testing experience. * Excellent technical documentation skills. * 
&gt;Experience working within complex technical environments. * Strong 
&gt;communication skills and ability to work well with others within a team 
&gt;environment essential. 
&gt;.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Jeff Earnheart
&gt;Technical Recruiter 
&gt;Bank One 
&gt;614-213-7319
&gt;
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