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- <li><em>date</em>: Sun Jul 18 15:17:42 2004</li>
- <li><em>from</em>: dcorbin at machturtle.com (David Corbin)</li>
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David
On Sunday 18 July 2004 12:58, Chuck Huber wrote:
> Well... The Hellsouth saga will soon be over.
>
> <vent>
> I knew when I signed up for their service I'd be sorry. And I am.
> Why'd I do it? Well, I've been on Speed Factory forever. Upon
> relocation to the mountains of North Carolina, I found that HellSouth
> was the only company to offer DSL service in my area. Hence, I
> chose them from a field of 1 company - what a choice.
>
> I took a while, but I learned that outbound connections to port
> 25 are blocked. Thanks HellSouth. So I reconfigured sendmail
> to send everything through their mail server only to find out that
> relaying was not allowed from the IP address I was using. The 550
> error also stated that the solution was to connect from the
> HellSouth Internet Service. Duh... what did they think I was using?
>
> Then there's this authentication thing. Their stated purpose was
> "to reduce junk e-mail or 'spam' on the Internet."
>
> So... I'm now stuck not being able to send mail. After about 30
> hours of conversations with their tech non-support, I finally was
> able to talk to a supervisor who admitted that they block port 25,
> something that, of course, was not disclosed when I signed up, and
> that they didn't allow relaying of emails through their mail server.
> To correct the problem, I would have to sign up for Business DSL, a
> prerequisite of which was a Business phone line.
>
> Granted, I'm not the Winbloze user with whom they're so accustomed
> to speaking. I host my own domain (so mail appears to be from
> cehuber.org) and an family email list (about 30 or so users - all kin).
>
> All in all, I found that HellSouth tech-nonsupport team doesn't even
> know how to speak English. One technician (they really shouldn't
> call themselves technicians) asked me if I wanted him to "axe" his
> supervisor to get an answer - a vernacular prevalent in the black
> community. Another tech said "try [this] and if that don't work ...",
> yet another abuse of the language. Not one person was knowledgeable,
> they seemed to be just following scripts - kinda like memorizing
> phonemes of lyrics to a song written in a foreign language. (I recall
> a Star Trek episode that said something like "... saying 'Juliet on
> the balcony' - without having read the play, it's meaningless."
>
> </vent>
>
> Well... to end the ISP nightmare once and for all, I'm renting an
> unmanaged server somewhere up in Virginia. It has Red Hat Fedora
> installed on it and WebMin.
>
> The problem I'm facing right now it trying to configure sendmail
> to handle virtual email domains. On my system at home, I've been
> using linuxconf to do this quite easily. (As bad as linuxconf is
> in other areas, it was able to handle this one function quite
> efficiently.)
>
> Well linuxconf hasn't been around since RH 8.0 (I think), and WebMin
> seems to fall short of the functionality I found in linuxconf.
>
> Can anyone give me some pointers as to how to setup virtual email
> domains with these tools? Alternatively, I can install a different
> MTA that has such functionality.
>
> One thing I considered doing to bypass the blocked port 25 was to
> use iptables to forward outbound connections to port 25 to an outside
> host, then translate them back on the other end and forward them right
> out. I haven't explored that to finality - just considered it.
>
> Thanks in advance to all,
> - Chuck
>
> --
> "The purpose of encryption is to protect good people
> from bad people, not to protect bad people from the government."
> -- Scott McNealy, CEO Sun Microsystems
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> -- Samuel Adams
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