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Dow


Chuck Huber wrote:

&gt;Well... The Hellsouth saga will soon be over.
&gt;
&gt;&lt;vent&gt;
&gt;I knew when I signed up for their service I'd be sorry.  And I am.
&gt;Why'd I do it?  Well, I've been on Speed Factory forever. Upon
&gt;relocation to the mountains of North Carolina, I found that HellSouth
&gt;was the only company to offer DSL service in my area.  Hence, I
&gt;chose them from a field of 1 company - what a choice.
&gt;
&gt;I took a while, but I learned that outbound connections to port
&gt;25 are blocked.  Thanks HellSouth.  So I reconfigured sendmail
&gt;to send everything through their mail server only to find out that
&gt;relaying was not allowed from the IP address I was using. The 550
&gt;error also stated that the solution was to connect from the
&gt;HellSouth Internet Service.  Duh... what did they think I was using?
&gt;
&gt;Then there's this authentication thing.  Their stated purpose was
&gt;&quot;to reduce junk e-mail or 'spam' on the Internet.&quot;
&gt;
&gt;So... I'm now stuck not being able to send mail.  After about 30
&gt;hours of conversations with their tech non-support, I finally was
&gt;able to talk to a supervisor who admitted that they block port 25,
&gt;something that, of course, was not disclosed when I signed up, and
&gt;that they didn't allow relaying of emails through their mail server.
&gt;To correct the problem, I would have to sign up for Business DSL, a
&gt;prerequisite of which was a Business phone line.
&gt;
&gt;Granted, I'm not the Winbloze user with whom they're so accustomed
&gt;to speaking.  I host my own domain (so mail appears to be from
&gt;cehuber.org) and an family email list (about 30 or so users - all kin).
&gt;
&gt;All in all, I found that HellSouth tech-nonsupport team doesn't even
&gt;know how to speak English.  One technician (they really shouldn't
&gt;call themselves technicians) asked me if I wanted him to &quot;axe&quot; his
&gt;supervisor to get an answer - a vernacular prevalent in the black
&gt;community.  Another tech said &quot;try [this] and if that don't work ...&quot;,
&gt;yet another abuse of the language.  Not one person was knowledgeable,
&gt;they seemed to be just following scripts - kinda like memorizing
&gt;phonemes of lyrics to a song written in a foreign language. (I recall
&gt;a Star Trek episode that said something like &quot;... saying 'Juliet on
&gt;the balcony' - without having read the play, it's meaningless.&quot;
&gt;
&gt;&lt;/vent&gt;
&gt;
&gt;Well... to end the ISP nightmare once and for all, I'm renting an
&gt;unmanaged server somewhere up in Virginia.  It has Red Hat Fedora
&gt;installed on it and WebMin.
&gt;
&gt;The problem I'm facing right now it trying to configure sendmail
&gt;to handle virtual email domains.  On my system at home, I've been
&gt;using linuxconf to do this quite easily.  (As bad as linuxconf is
&gt;in other areas, it was able to handle this one function quite
&gt;efficiently.)
&gt;
&gt;Well linuxconf hasn't been around since RH 8.0 (I think), and WebMin
&gt;seems to fall short of the functionality I found in linuxconf.
&gt;
&gt;Can anyone give me some pointers as to how to setup virtual email
&gt;domains with these tools?  Alternatively, I can install a different
&gt;MTA that has such functionality.
&gt;
&gt;One thing I considered doing to bypass the blocked port 25 was to
&gt;use iptables to forward outbound connections to port 25 to an outside
&gt;host, then translate them back on the other end and forward them right
&gt;out.  I haven't explored that to finality - just considered it.
&gt;
&gt;Thanks in advance to all,
&gt;    - Chuck
&gt;
&gt;--
&gt;&quot;The purpose of encryption is to protect good people
&gt;from bad people, not to protect bad people from the government.&quot;
&gt;    -- Scott McNealy, CEO Sun Microsystems
&gt;&quot;The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time
&gt;with the blood of patriots and tyrants.&quot;
&gt;    -- Thomas Jefferson
&gt;&quot;If there must be trouble let it be in my day,
&gt;that my child may have peace.&quot;
&gt;    -- Thomas Paine
&gt;&quot;The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution,
&gt;are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to
&gt;defend them against all attacks.&quot;
&gt;    -- Samuel Adams
&gt;&quot;They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
&gt;   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&quot;
&gt;    -- Benjamin Franklin
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