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>3. Spam from harvesting. The ALE list is the ONLY list that I am registered
>for that purposely broadcasts the email addresses so that they may be 
>easily
>harvested and spoofed. Yahoo groups, Austing Linux Group, the local PHP
>group, and the forums that I register for have simply hidden the email
>address so that it is NOT easy to harvest. ALE on the otherhand tacitly
>ENDORSES spam WHILE hypocritically shaming spammers. While the ALE has
>implemented a system that would stop this problem on a mirrored server, the
>most public server still allows the exploit. Ironically, there are admins 
>and
>programmers on this this. Spam related to ALE accounts for most of the spam 
>I
>get. Anytime I hear complaints about spammers, or complaints about 
>Microsoft
>fixing their software, I reflect on the fact that "the best" programmers
>don't either.

I have to agree with you here, Drew.  That's the main reason I'm subscribed 
to ALE via a Hotmail account right now.  I only use it for a few things, and 
have a whitelist which will only accept mail from a few lists and people.

I got a SPAM email- with worm attached- which apparently originated from the 
sendmail server on this very box (behind my firewall).   I figure it was 
probably spoofed, especially considering it was a win32 worm,  and I had 
quit using the sendmail daemon at all on any boxes, but it scared me enough 
that I wiped all my disks and started from scratch on every box on my LAN- 
even though chkrootkit said all was well.

As you noted, ALE is the only list I'm on which publishes a 
publicly-accessable and therefor harvestable collection of e-mail addresses 
(via it's archives).

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