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You forgot to mention "perform for a specific application"  ;-)
(and particular RAM, controller, ....)

Unfortunately most benchmarks on the web are highly irrelevant for me.
( Game frame rates , office productivity tools, ....)

I recently stopped miss-using my Dual Xeon 2.8GHz test machine for kernel 
compile duties
and bought and used a cheap Athlon XP 2500/Barton instead.
( While I am normally a SCSI only guy due to the higher MTBF - I tested the 
SATA waters
with the Raptor drive (the first non SCSI drive with decent MTBF) for this box)

While I am certain that a benchmark would show the Xeon machine way ahead on 
compiles
it really makes no practical difference for me.

> 
> 
> I can tell you this:
> 
> My P4 2.8GHz w/hyperthreading in my Dell workstation doesn't seem any faster 
> for FPU than my home PC with a Athlon XP 1800 at ~1.5GHz.  For disk access the 
> Dell seems faster than the home PC.  Graphics seem sort of equivalent though I 
> know they shouldn't be.  Responsiveness is about equal between the two 
> workstations.
> 
> Dow
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher Fowler wrote:
> > Here is where I get confused is 2.4GHz faster than 1.83ghz?
> > 
> > On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 13:12, Stephan Uphoff wrote:
> > 
> >>You might want to upgrade to an Athlon with a 512K L2 cache.
> >>   Example:  AMD Athlon XP 2500+ 1.83GHz 333FSB 512KB - $80 + Free shipping
&gt; &gt;&gt;   <a  rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80170-R";>http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80170-R</a>
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;I'm looking in the lates dirty magazine (Computer User).  We call them
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;the dirty magazine because of the lust they create. I guess I can get an
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;XP-2400+ for $74.99 and a PIV 2.4 for $145.99  Is there any difference
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;that warrants double price?
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 06:06, Geoffrey wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Marvin Dickens wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It does not, the P4s, especially the celerons are dogs.  I have a
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;1.8 GHz celeron and I swear my 800 MHz Athlon runs rings around
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;it. I've been underwhelmed by the p4 since there were introduced.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Any processor that is slower per clock tick than the previous
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;generation has something dreadfully wrong.  If you must do P4,
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;get a real one, not the celeron.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Thanks.  It looks as if I'll be skipping the system due to the
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Intel tax.  The XP must be better.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;FWIW, I always go with AMD. The only disadvantage I know of is that 
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;AMD processors are destroyed in the event of an unnoticed CPU fan
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;failure occurs. OTOH, the Intel chips automatically shut themselves
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;down when a fan failure occurs and the temperature rises too high.
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;They now have athlon mb that will shutdown in the same way.  I've got 
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;two, but I've not tested it. :)
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;

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