[ale] Opera 7.11 Linux Final is Out

[synco at xodarap.net (Synco Gibraldter)]

in the sense of pure capitalism, what you say makes perfect sense.  but
linux didn't come around off of capitalism.  it has THRIVED off of a
complete lack of capitalism.  so there's a natural boundary that's always
existed between open source software development and money.  i really like
it because it produces better software, better security, and zero cost.

selling software on this platform is counter-productive to the movement
which has carried it this far.  it can only bring in more commercial
vendors and turn this whole thing into a 'market' when it's never been (or
needed to be) like that at all.

and who would need tech support on a web browser?  if the browser is
acting weird, i want the source-- not a person.

anyway, i think this topic is winding down.  i'm about to head out for a
while.  nice discussing this with most of you (even if you still disagree
with me).


peace,
synco


On 21 May 2003, Mike Lockhart wrote:

> I don't see how making a profit off a product that belongs to you is
> wrong.  Is there something wrong with you going to work every day and
> getting a paycheck every two weeks?  No.  So why should this be any
> different.  This group of people go to their office every day and
> program this application, which in turn makes sure that they have a
> paycheck in the bank every two weeks.  Now tell me why someone should
> not be free to put food on their table and support themselves and their
> family?  Look at IBM, they support Linux very strongly, but also use it
> to make a profit by in turn creating mainframe systems that are designed
> for linux.  It doesn't matter if it is hardware or software, fact of the
> matter is that someone out there is going to create a product that is
> theirs and theirs alone because they need to or want to make a profit
> off of it.  More power to them.  It is a free country/world.  If you
> don't like Opera, then use Mozilla.  No one is telling you which to
> use.  It is simply a matter of choice.  Plus, look at the business side
> of it.  Lets say I own a company and our main software is built in house
> and is web based.  Now if I use Mozilla, sure, it will probably work
> excellent, but I have no guarantees for it, whereas if I used Opera, if
> something went wrong with the browser I could just call their tech
> support and get assistance in resolving the issue.  Just my $0.02
>
> - mike
>
> On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 15:00, Synco Gibraldter wrote:
> > no doubt man -- i completely agree that, of course, we should and DO have
> > a free choice about how we develop and release our code.  but that doesn't
> > mean that there is no right and wrong (even if it's only relative).  i
> > know that opera has their options and they are completely within the
> > bounds of the law and norms of society.  but it still makes me sick when i
> > see them doing it.  yes, we have choices but there are still wrong ones.
> >
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